apple syndrome, revisited

December 20, 2007

I completely understand that consumers should read their warranties and that businesses are not charities and that sometimes Wired magazine makes mistakes. And I have been involved with technology long enough to know that it’s all shiny and sparkly to distract us from the fact that it doesn’t work, often breaks, and to brainwash us into thinking that “I guess I have to reboot” is a functional method of operation.

So when my new Vista-esque Sony laptop with the fantastic screen and the DVD-only mode turned out to be a string of salesperson-uttered broken promises, deathly blue screens, and unexpected shut downs, I considered it to be a normal, operational computer. When the shift and control keys stopped working, I didn’t bat an eyelash and simply remapped them to function keys. So I had to train my fingers to move up rather than sideways for capital letters and copy and paste. This is the way of Windows. But when the k key and the 0 key and the l key randomly stopped working… well, that started to get in the way of my productivity. Then 10 minutes it took to get out of sleep mode didn’t help either. Nor did the USB ports that only worked when they decided the air was exactly the same temperature.

I broke down and called Sony. After the requisite half hour hold, I talked to someone who said they’d be happy to have me send the laptop back so they could check it out. And if they decided the problem was under warranty, they would fix it and send it back. How long would that take? About 14 days.

Let me interrupt my sad, sad story to revisit what I said before. I know this is how their warranty works and Sony is delivering exactly the service is promised. And it’s easy to say that consumers are dumb not to read these things and know what they are getting into. But I don’t know that consumers are stupid.

Instead, I think that consumers enter into a kind of contract with a company during a purchase. I pay money in exchange for a reasonable expectation that the thing I’m buying will actually work. We don’t put a great deal of emphasis on the “what if something goes wrong” part of the deal because if we expected the item not to work, we likely wouldn’t buy it in the first place.

But my laptop didn’t work and it’s my only working computer right now. How do you think I would do without a computer for 14 days? Right, I may as well go without coffee. Or the air.

I asked the nice Sony rep if any options were available that would enable me to exchange the non-functioning laptop for a functioning one. He said I could call customer care and they would help me with that. Great! I called the number. And listened to lots of ads for Sony products.

Tip #1 for phone support: don’t try to sell things to people who have problems with your product and are patiently waiting on hold for help. This happens to me all the time and I cannot imagine a scenario in which the person finally reaches a real person and says “well, I was originally calling because this thing you sold me doesn’t work, but forget all that. Now I’d like to buy more stuff from you!”

I finally got through to a person who said I had called the online sales number and she could only help me with purchases directly from them. Well, I bought the laptop at Fry’s. I had to return it to them, then. I had tried that and they said they had a 15 day return policy; after that, I had to call Sony. She helpfully gave me the first Sony number I had called. I explained that I had already talked to them, so perhaps there was another number I could call? Nope, that was the number.

Tip #2: Educate the employees who answer the phone. A customer with a problem isn’t likely to be made super happy by waiting on hold a half hour, only to be caught up in Dante’s seventh circle of phone scavenger hunt hell.

She eventually transferred me back to the original tech support line. I talked to an amazingly unhelpful person who explained about the warranty and how the whole send back for 14 days thing is in writing. I completely understand it’s in writing. I get that they are doing exactly as they promised. But they sold me a laptop that clearly doesn’t work and some amount of working with me might have caused me to write a blog post about how Sony confidently backs up its products and supports its customers and goes beyond what they have to in customer service rather than writing, well, this blog post and quoting forum posts like this one that I perhaps will link to with anchor text from the title of the thread: don’t buy a Sony Viao

They will not even lend me a replacement because it did not fail within 2 weeks. 2 weeks? Is that all that they can comfortably commit too?
This has made me rethink my policy of buying Sony for its reliabilty and quality. I accept that things can go wrong but the first rule that I instill with my team is that the complaint must be dealt with promptly and resolved a quickly as possible.
Clearly Sony do not subscribe to this principle.

So what’s a girl to do. I sadly have two other laptops — one with a broken screen and one that randomly shuts off every few minutes. Apparently, I’m a poor steward of technology. I figured I’d better get yet another laptop, and I’d better do it fast. I could get a cheap PC, but those don’t seem to have a great track record with me and besides, I’ll send the Sony off for its 14 day tour and get it back fixed, so I don’t really need yet another Windows laptop.

I know. I can barely bring myself to type it. Me, the champion against all that is unholy and wrong about Apple holding the world prisoner with its shiny, shiny lure of nonfunctionality. That same me walked into an Apple store and exchanged large piles of money for a Macbook Pro.

In my defense: not only is the Macbook Pro very very pretty, but all I had to do was take it out of the box and turn it on and I was online in about 15 seconds, as I admitted recently when I was a guest on SEO Rockstars.

I’ve now had the Mac for a couple of weeks and while it’s not the perfect utopian paradise, with frolicking, scantily clad fairies, unlimited lattes, and showering gold that one is led to believe — it does occasionally freeze or not understand that a full signal wireless connection means I should be able to get on the internet — it’s BILLIONS of times better than my Sony laptop of doom. One forgets how much easier it is to get things done when one isn’t restarting from the blue screen of shattered dreams and unsaved documents every ten minutes.

The biggest drawback of the Mac is that I know absolutely nothing about it. Give me a PC and I’ll fine-tune your registry settings, reinstall your drivers, and work from the command line. Give me a Mac and I’ll… well, I’ve almost figured out how to launch applications. I’m going to use bootcamp to install XP on a partition (although someone on Twitter suggested vmware fusion or virtualbox instead), but I’m going to keep the Mac OS too and see if I can figure out how to do more than just gaze at it longingly.

Will I become one of those crazy, hippie Apple-loving fanatics who likes Apple just a little too much and who smugly tells everyone I “think different” with no ironic nod to that phrase’s grammatical incorrectness? Will I trade in my bursting-with-function Smartphone for the shiny iPhone of uselessless?

In the unlikely event of such distruption in the natural order of the universe, I give you all license to remind me of my English degree and smack me in the head with one of my many nonfunctioning iPods.

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A flying pig just delivered the devil a snowball…

Congratulations, you just bought the best XP notebook on the planet. Since the hardware is the same as 100% of the other users, your fresh XP install will be very clean, and devoid of the endless amounts of crap PC manufacturers put on their machines. I’ve had great luck with my XP install on Bootcamp.

My Macbook Pro 17″ is the best computer I’ve ever owned, hands down.

On the Mac side, give yourself time to settle in. And don’t fear the spinning rainbow wheel of death, learn to embrace it. :)

Welcome to the Cult of Apple–we’re a jovial bunch. Somebody will be around with the FanB0i Club Card and to effect the ritual branding shortly.

Dan Thies (you know Dan, right?) made the switch a few months ago, and he strongly recommends vmware. He seems so happy about it I think I may buy a Mac next time around.

Just because you got a bad laptop doesn’t mean you should convert to the dark side:.)

At least you managed to actually speak to someone at Sony.

I sat in a telephone queue for IBM customer service for about 6 to 8 hours on multiple days and never ever even got to speak to anyone at all.

And the fault was one for which there was some sort of recall/free repair notice in force for. Diabolical!

To me this is about managing expectations.

Apple computers break, crash, and have problems just like Windows machines do (well, not JUST like windows machines) … but Apple simply doesn’t have the same reputation as Windows machines. So, when I got my new Mac, in a way, it let me down even more than my Windows machine did … because I was expecting something above and beyond what windows was.

The years of Apple hype had led me to believe that using an Apple is like going to heaven. No blue screens of death; installing devices is a snap; and problems simply don’t exist. It’s just brilliant. But there was my Apple machine, applications dying on me, OS asking me for my password every 10 minutes, and bothering me with a huge list of things it wanted to download every time I turned it on. And one wrong click and your application completely disappears.

When you go to a McDonald’s, you get what you’re expecting: a crappy burger. But when you go to a restaurant that has a great reputation and have a bad meal, it’s actually worse than getting what you expected from McDonalds.

LOL, this is hilarious. I was in Orange County last week at the Spectrum and was bored waiting for a movie to start. I walked into the Apple store (and my cousin will attest that I hate Apple–I’m a big brand guy, Coke, Sony, Amazon, etc.) and actually used an Apple computer for the first time since my science class in high school (circa 1995). You know what . . . I liked it a lot. Will I convert? Nah. Not yet, but I did gain a lot of respect for the glossy white piece of technology.

BTW, I still think they are WAY over priced.

Payne

Ah I think the problem is down to the Vista-esque nature of the sony :-)

Should have gone with a basic stink pad or a dell running xp – even though ime still teed off about express card fiasco.

at least you would have to pay 100 bucks for the service packs with windows based lappy’s.

I am in the market for a new machine, and contemplating a Mac. I was discussing this with an engineer friend who said “But don’t you want a *real* machine?”

And you know what? No, I do not want a real machine. I want the laptop equivalent of a toaster. Turn it on. Make toast. Turn it off. I do not want to tune or configure my toaster. I do not want to know how my toaster works. I want it make toast.

The Mac wackos I know tell me that a Mac is just the toaster for me. I guess I’ll find out soon enough.

> toaster

In my opinion, a computer isn’t a toaster, it’s a car. Even when driving an automatic, there were a lot of nuances to get used to, and it wasn’t just pressing the gas, steering, and braking. It’s negotiating 3-point turns, getting a sense of how to keep space between other cars, how to negotiate a freeway onramp, etc.

Fast forward–you can pretty much negotiate any traffic situation with some presence of mind and in a fairly mindless, natural way.

Operating systems, and the internet, are wild beasts but you can get your sea legs. Put time into a computer and learning about it, it’ll pay dividends the way a car eventually does.

As someone who has seen several PC and Mac laptops go wrong all I can say is make sure you have a good warranty or a _working_ emergency plan. You never realise just how bad things can be until you are the one having to make that phone call and in that respect Apple can be just as good (and bad) as everyone else. If your Apple laptop motherboard breaks you may well have to do without it for a few days until it can be replaced. If it’s that important, make sure you have a backup plan (or ensure you have someone else who will put a backup plan in place for you).

I love my MBP! If you haven’t done the bootcamp thing yet look into Parallels instead. You can seamlessly run windows IN leopard – though you really need at least 2GB of ram (I would cram as much in there as you can).

Fwiw, I think it’s a MUCH better user experience than any windows machine. I’m sure by now you must be loving the “better” OS (well, lesser of two evils really)….just stay away from NTFS formatted drives :/

Vanessa,

I have to share after reading your post about your laptop … boy oh boy was it very similar to mine.
I called sony after my Viao started acting up with the camera. The camera screen would turn blue and not function at all. Sometimes it would turn itself on and yet there would be no image on the screen. Unfortunately I have no idea where my reciept went, I found every other Sony reciept since every product one could buy from Sony resides in our home. I called Sony and had the post date on the Credit card we used to buy the Viao and this still wasn’t good enough for Sony … oh no they too told me to go back to Best Buy and talk to them since it was under the one year warranty. I went to Best Buy and they too said that it was only returnablein a 14 day frame … so back to Sony I called and I too many times had been put on hold listening to there disgusting product promotions. My cell bill from Sony alone was well over 100 dollars. Okay so long story short. Sony FINALLY decided that they would honor the Year Warranty … gesh it was like pulling eye teeth I tell ya. I spent the 56.00 it was to send the Viao to one of Sony’s pc repairer and I too waited. I waited for 17 days before my Viao came back to me. I was so excited because I wrote a huge book on that pc and since there was a problem with the c drive I couldn’t do a back up disk. So I open the box and took out the laptop plugged it in and guess what it didn’t work. So I went back to the box and looked at the paper. The paper from the repair shop stated that there was water damage to the Viao there for they were sending it back to me PER MY REQUEST UNREPAIRED. WHAT!? I never told them not to repair it and further more there has never been liquid near my laptop. I was so upset. I called Sony back and you know what I waited on line for about 40 minutes before getting a rep. When I spoke to the rep she was trying to help me restart the pc hello… didn’t I just say that it came back unrepaired? Okay so I finally got that through her thick head and then she said… Oh I see you caused severe liquid damage to your pc. I insisted I never had liquid anywhere near it and she says to me well you had too of because it says the pc had sever liquid damage. So I ask well don’t you think if the laptop had such severe water damage that my plug or pc or wall where the pc was at would have shown traces of liquid damage burn marks? Oh she said you know that there was liquid damage and you did it… I was so upset and told her I have property insurance that covers any kind of damage including liquid damage. Wouldn’t one think I would just go to my insurance and ask them to help with the situation id liquid damage was the cause of SONY’s crackpot pc going to hell with a black screen and then not turning back on. Oh geesh so now I have to fight with them to have the page not say PER OUR REQUEST they were sending it back UNREPAIRED when it should state SONY doesn’t want to honor their WARRANTY. After hanging up with the rep I out of curiosity went to see if maybe I could start the machine. I turned it on and hit the F10 key and low and behold not even the key board works anymore. I called SONY back and after along wait told them that the VIAO came back to my home in worse condition then when it was sent out and after further investigation found out the the WLAN slider too was broken. I don’t know what kind of Mickey Mouse Computer repaier they use but this was nasty. I will from now on never ever buy a SOny product ever again. I have all our SONY products for sell and I will never promote them ever again. I am sorry for everyone who ever thought (like I did for years) SONY is so wonderful. Geesh thanks for letting me vent and oh I now have a Dell inspiron 1525 new fast and fresh … I bought another Dell after out last Dell outlasted the Viao by 7 years.

I too have become disenchanted with the lack of reliability of Windows based PC – but it seems to be related specifically to Windows Vista – not necessarily the hardware it is installed on.
I have been a software quality assurance expert for over 20 years and after leaving the software industry to follow my heart into professional photography (actually what I got my degree in) I have just purchased my first Mac (although I have used them in testing software). I have to say that the only reason I did it was frustration with the crappy performance and software/hardware compatibility problems of Vista. A year ago I purchased a top of the line HP workstation and have been unable to get it to work properly/reliably using Vista. I must admit that I made the gross mistake of trying to use the 64 bit version of Vista Ultimate only to find out (after I purchased the software upgrade) that HP will not support my Workstation if Vista Ultimate is installed – I have had to downgrade to Vista Business – Negating the benefits I would gain for my photography work.
I finally determined that if I could get Adobe to convert my software licenses from Windows to Mac – I would give Mac a try. Well, son-of-a-gun if after a short conversation wherein I expressed my complete disgust with Vista to the Adobe Sales department, they promised that issuing me a Mac version of my Adobe Creative Suite 3 software would not be a problem. I then proceeded to purchase a MacBook to begin my indoctrination into the Mac-head world.
I have worked with the system for about 2 weeks now and I find that I am much more productive in Windows – even with all the crashes and instability and so I am now reconsidering and perhaps regretting my decision to move to Mac – particularly since the return policy on Mac is NO RETURNS… END OF STORY. Luckily I have a niece who is graduating from high school this week and she is getting a really nice MacBook for a graduation present.
In all honesty, the MacBook is a very nice package. I made the mistake of going with too small a screen and that severely limited my ability to have a positive experience when editing my photos in Photoshop and Lightroom. If the darn things only had a two button track pad it would make life so much easier for someone like me – I am missing part of my middle finger on my right had so that the convoluted – what is it… control, point, click to get a right mouse click is just plain awkward, confusing, and downright unnecessary. Other than that, and not being unable to easily determine where in the hell my Mac was installing software and storing files – and a pesky problem I had with connecting to my PPPOE Reliably (the AirPort connection worked flawlessly with my wireless router but the PPPOE Connection kept dropping – maybe my ISP’s fault) I was generally impressed with the fit, finish, and functionality of the unit. I installed Vista Ultimate 32 bit using BootCamp and it worked flawlessly (except for the afore mentioned right click limitations).
My advice is try a friends Mac out for a few days prior to purchasing – if you can. Additionally, seriously consider how much you use and rely on features like right-click, and finally, consider the screen real estate and resolution carefully as these were my biggest mistakes. If I purchase another Mac it will have to be a MacBook Pro with a 17 inch screen and 512 MB of video memory and 3 GB of RAM. When you consider the cost of a MacBook Pro configured this way compared to a newly configured windows machine with the same features – it is hard to justify the price of the Mac – but with it being a dual boot Mac and Windows machine, perhaps it is a bit more understandable as it will afford one to eventually move away from Microsoft.
I hope you find this advice and observations helpful.

Well I am sorry to rain on your parade but my Mac has had nothing but issue after issue and the KIND people at mac are a bunch of NOT KIND PEOPLE just like you expeienced.JUST COUNT YOUR BLESSINGS ANDS SAVE YOUR RECEIPTS for all laptops mac,sony dell whoever. Its called corporate america and they are all SNAKES!IMHO..I have a desktop DELL and SONY with NO issues my daughter convinced me to get a MAC—MY BAD never never again!MAC is ROTTEN to the CORE BIGTIME

one user says:

“Well I am sorry to rain on your parade but my Mac has had nothing but issue after issue and the KIND people at mac are a bunch of NOT KIND PEOPLE just like you expeienced.JUST COUNT YOUR BLESSINGS ANDS SAVE YOUR ”

I am very interested in hearing what these “issues” are. You’re lack of specifics leads me to believe your problems are not as “rotton” as you say they are.

I have had four macs in the past few years. They are not perfect. I’ve had a number of different issues where things have either broken or went bad. I can’t tell you how many times I lost data because of an update that crashed my system. That being said, I have owned PC/WIN computers before that and the level of frustration was so much more I don’t even want to think about it.

When it comes down to it, its about what your expectations are and what you are using the machine for. Apple has fixed 2 issues with my macbook and in both cases parts/fixes were done through overnight service that took no more than 3 days.

All of you folks complaining are really kinda ingnorant! Most of your errors with your laptops are due to USER ERRORS & LACK OF KNOW-HOW. Why don’t you folks know what your using your systems for and the right components that go with it?!

If you own a Viao, yeah it’s got all the cool bells and whistles but if your don’t have the system memory, settings or requirements to support all that stuff, then what do you expect!! The same applies for any MAC as well.

So many consumers want all the lastest hardware and software…yet don’t realize the first thing is to shell out the cash for upgrades to keep your systems operating smoothly. USER ERRORS & BUYERS REMORSE boo hoo

I am right in front of a Sony Viao PCG 6W7P typing my comment. I am helping a computer illiterate friend who bought this crap machine to sort out his problem. The first problem was the crap Vista which took ages to update and never seems to complete. I downgraded to XP using the downgrade disc supplied. I could not find the necessary drivers. I tried clicking into the Sony supports. Finally I found the Viao driver website. I could not get the model mentioned. What can I do with this amazing crab(p)?LOL

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Well, you may feel a little better knowing that your article just killed my thoughts of buying a Viao. Thanks for the warning.
On another note, my son, a Computer Engg Graduate from Georgia Tech and a PC lover for years, is so frustrated with Vista that he is seriously thinking of Mac. Read it in his Blog: http://www.barik.net/

macbook pro on bootcamp i know no one bad problem cant ruin the bunch (my macbook’s hard drive failing 2x and logistics board once) but I am working in an architecture firm and three of my coworkers had to send their macbook pros back for kernal panics that wouldnt allow them to even start on osx. I will not get into what happened with our IMacs.

Well, I don’t know how I stubled upon this page, but here I am anyway, and I will add my less than 2 cents worth. I went from Toshiba Satelite, to ibook, to macbook, to Dell XPS, and now almost welt to a Sony Viao in the course of the last 7 years. Thanks to this ranting blog/forum/whatever this site is, I will NOT be getting the Viao I was just customizing for purchase on the Sony website. After much trial I have decided that while Apple isn’t perfect,if I am going to have a crappy computer, I will at least have a decent crappy Mac computer. WIndows is hell. I was raised with windows, went to Mac, got frustrated, went back to windows, and now I have come to realize that BOTH suck, but Mac sucks a whole lot less. I found the genius bar people to be less than helpful when needing mac service, but their phone customer support people have been fabulous. My first ibook had a broken palmrest, they fixed it through the mail for free in less than a week total. My power adapter decided to spontaneously combust, and I had a new one delivered to my front porch in 5 days time. My macbook had palmrest problems as well, these were fixed under recall in a weeks time as well. Apple isn’t perfect, but it is a heck of a lot better than windows.

Let’s see – first computer was Radioshack color 4k! lasted with me one day – could not complete the “hello world” program. Went to RS color 8k – added two ss 5.25 floppies and non descending, one way 9 pin printer. Write my dissertation proposal on that.
Bought a Seequa portable weighed about 20 lbs, 9in orange crt. 2 ss flops – both a Z80 and 8080 chip. Would run CPM and the NEW!!!!
DOS 1.0. (Yes, by cracky – I am that old!)

Since then I have had about 8 or nine computers (I would have to go to the attic and count the carcasses to know for sure – and that would start THAT conversation again with my wife)

Best computer ever was the Seequa
Second best a NEC Desktop (open it up it looked like a jewelry store it was so nice.
Third best a Viao – until the thermal shutdown problem –
The worst – the crap HP dv2000 I have now – Vista not the problem it is that HP shipped about a billion of these things with bad motherboards – but I keep it limping along. Just NEVER shut it off!! (so not so portable now – I use an ACER netbook for that – no I did not make it into a quasi XP laptop, it is a basic Linux machine so it does EXACTLY what it is designed for.}

So what? Well in all that time you see nary a Mac – have hated them from day 1 stupid box they put out that took about two days and 75 disk swaps to boot. Last year I thought I would use MAcs in my univ class so the students could produce a class video – one day it took an hour and 15 min to process a 12 min vid from cam. My crap HP did it in about 2 min. So my conclusion is that the difference between Mac and Windows machine users is this:

1 – MAC users periodically bale a wad of cash up with twine and send it to Steve just for the priveledge of using the (admittedly) classy looking machines — PC users go find what they want, hack it and steal it.
2 – MAC users trust that their machine is actually doing what it says it is doing so sit and stare in patient limbo as it assures them it will be done in less than 60 seconds (same state as when they are contemplating some nice green recreation drug) – PC users KNOW the machine is crashing about 50% of the time so have all sorts of escape strategies and recovery schemes.
3 – MAC users are into more creative kinds of programs that look really KOOL on the MAC – but the freeware stuff for PC can be used nearly as well.
4 – BOTH Mac and PC users forget that both camps are run by for-profit companies that plan and push obsolescence. So how did that work out for Detroit??
5 – IBM stands for I’m Becoming a Mac and MAC stand for Marginally Accessible Computer – you pays your monies and you takes your chances…..
Hmm – lets see maybe for my next portable computer I will buy a Sun Workstation and a van (at the rate things are going, probably not a GM product!)

George was right (no not W — Orwell!)

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